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Tuesday, March 23, 2010

Time To Start Posting Again

As Full Tilt has just really irked me this week by providing some crazy cards to people. I think I am the only person that if I push the worst hand I dont get runner runner to win. Let me reiterate that. I have said this before and will again. I have NEVER in 4 years of playing online poker gotten a runner runner anything to win a hand I was behind on. Yet it happens to me all the time. So if you are reading this you are obviously searching that something is going on at Full Tilt. It is. Before you listen to Full Tilts take it in the assers tell you that cards are random and its "just poker." Do this:

Check out the stats of the person who gave you the bad beat. I guarantee that:

1. They have lost money on the site
2. They are usually not from the US
3. If neither of these are true, they are a very new player who is playing there first dozen sit n goes.

Go ahead check it out. I figured out Full Tilts software long ago.

9 comments:

Oldgoatguy said...

Yes Ive been playing online poker for 6 years long before party poker was banned to americans ,during absolutes fraud schemes, and several accounts on full tilt. I have also noticed the pattern of these players who make such unbelievable calls and end up with even more unbelievable bad beats. Most, of these people are losing players and have either recently deposited or have never cashed out...
People all the time say why>? why do they need to rig people when they make millions..
The awnser is simple why would they want you to take all the losing players raked funds and cash them out to spend on groceries or perhaps pay bills, chances are that money will never return to their site! On the other hand losing players always play no matter what and keeping a losing player happy will ensure good business with a depositor in the future ...This is why after cashouts and a certain amount made you hit that unbelievable run where no matter what u have AA vs 44 etc all in preflop like several times today to me you will lose no matter what..I am not angry at the site nor mad I've made about 1500 dollars off 50 dollars like ive said I've been playing for about 7 years now and 5 different online sites and by far full tilt is the most obvious cheater of all...I would also like to add that of course the high limit tables are not rigged they only make a small percent of the daily raked hands and pros playing with cheated money and raked money from hard working people are fun too watch.I'm posting this so maybe some1 will save the heartache in the future and like the song goes "Go on take the money and RUN"....

tummer said...

I left Full Tilt a couple of years ago after my account was hacked and someone wiped out about $1,200 in my account. The virus that hit my pc was not Full Tilt's fault (I don't think so anyway), but I notified them up front that I wanted my password and signon changed and my account locked, but they did nothing. After the fact, they refused to do anything about it.


Well, stupid me, I reactivated my account and have been exeriencing everything mentioned in these blogs. Continous bad beats, ongoing losses, and simply cannot win regardless how conservative or reckless I play - ring games or tournament.

I consider myself a fairly solid player, I have won some tournaments on other sites and have experiences successess and losses at real casinos. I am convince something is very wrong at Full Tilt. Yes, I have written to them, but get the same line of crap about how everything is fair.

Anyway, I hope this blog prevents others from learning the hard way about Full Tilt.

Note: I don't feel too good about Ultimate Bet / Absolute Poker either.

Kristo said...

Strangely I have the same downfall right now which I don't understand and yes, I have recently withdrawn a fair amount of money out the site.

How many hands to you play? I have played somewhat of 20 000 hands after I withdrawed the money and since then I get really, really shitty hands or when a decent hand comes then there's most of the times a better hand against me.

Yes, I also win but becase I play so much I have noticed how the winning rate has dramatically dropped.

l said...

I played on Absolute Poker for awhile and the suckouts are just unreal. People calling my Nut Flush on the flop with none of the suited cards in their hand and starting with small pair and weak kicker...calling to the river to get a full house. No rhyme or reason for these types of calls. It happens all the time. I thought that it was just a coincidence at first but I saw it happen way to much and usually for the same players and to other victims. The limit size didn't matter either it is not just a micro donk calling as they are stupid or dont care it happens in the bigger games more so.
I wonder if the RABBIT feature is hackable. I think it should be done away with as I think that it has somehow been exploited. I don't know if FTP or PS has it but AP does and this may be the thing behind these players supposed ESP.

I do think that there may be something to the cashing out and foreign player bit too. After I cashed out my poker world became a nightmare. They want you to reload and get their money back. We all know it is geared for the "foreign player" as well. To much happens.

My advice stay away from online poker. Until the U.S. steps in and regulates it and protects it's players!! Which by the look of it is not going to happen.

You have no protection and no regulation. You do the math.

Open your eyes people if has been done before (cheating) and is still being done.

There is just to much that doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense then it just isn't real true or right.

Darren said...

Funny you say that its biased towards non-us players. I feel completley the opposite - im from the UK and im sick and tired of Full tilt. When i first signed up I doubled up my deposit very quickly and spent 9 months waiting for a free gift. As soon as the free gift arrived my "luck" turned and lost the lot very quickly and said never again. Well, few years later and FT was the only place i could find the game I wanted to player. 2 deposits later and zero $ ive given up again on them. There is no other site like it.

Take a look at the flops - the majority are raggy or AT LEAST 2 broadway cards (rarely 1) or an ace.

Lunettesman said...

i ve an interesting story to tell you guys, how can i do to post it???

adam said...

All of you are just bad at poker and can't take a beat. I've been playing full tilt for over a year now and have a 25k profit. If someone has 2 suited hole cards and it goes runner runner, that means there are 10 of the same suits out there. multiply that by 2and you get a 20% of that suit showing up on later streets. If your going to showdown on the flop then you have to be willing to accept the variance of poker.
If your wondering how this variance is played out, google "pseudorandomness".
I think all of you are taking this way to personally. Poker is a game of odds, i have come to literally not blink an eye about bad beats. It sucks but its a revolving door as we all give them out. Play a solid, logical game and you will be successful, i promise you. `

666dorado said...

why would any poker site "risk milions of dollars"?? because it's not really a risk. it's human nature to rig any business or situation to your financial advantage, especially since there's no way to prove it and without any governmental regulation. and even if there was, there are plenty of people who will accept that risk.

look at electronic slot machines. it's well known that those are rigged to pay out a lesser percentage over time (let's say 93% for example), yet people happily put their money in the machines.

outside of casinos, look at light bulbs and razor blades and their planned obsolescence for example. they are designed to fail in a short amount of time to keep you coming back. and people don't complain. it's just the nature of business.

stacking the deal in poker to give advantage to certain (or weaker) players is not necessarily "cheating", but can even out the experience for a broader range of people.

i KNOW this is going on in most sites. i can't prove it on full tilt (you can't prove it's NOT), but on other sites where i had multiple accounts, i would sit in at the same tables with another account when my "luck" was running out (i'd sit in the same tables with the same people), and suddenly my "luck" would change, and vice versa. the deal is tied to the account.

i think it's predetermined before the deal who will get the NUT hand, 2nd best, 3rd, etc..., and it's up to you to play the game. of course, you can say that in real life the same thing happens ("destiny", "fate") and that god controls it. but it's not random.

a computer is not a human, so there is no dealer to evaluate the hand after it is finished, so mathematically the software needs to calculate who wins the hand. which means in every deal, every player's hand has an assigned mathematical ranking so the outcome can be determined by a formula. in this case, predetermined, since all this takes a split second and the computer knows the rankings of the hands before any of the players ever see the cards and play.

the best hand (of whoever is left) at the showdown will be the winner. and this is so easy to manipulate. the software can select "JOE SCHMOE" who hasn't won in a while because he is a bad player, to receive the best dealt hand for an entire session. of course, he could still lose by playing poorly. but the funny thing is you can do this with a couple lines of code and there's no way to prove it.

and i don't care if you are phil ivey or doyle brunson or whoever. if you are marked to be dealt the 3rd or 4th best hand for an entire session of let's say 5 hours, or through 1000 hands, you are going to lose your money eventually.

you just can't consistently win in online poker when those type of odds are stacked against you.

666dorado said...

why would any poker site "risk milions of dollars"?? because it's not really a risk. it's human nature to rig any business or situation to your financial advantage, especially since there's no way to prove it and without any governmental regulation. and even if there was, there are plenty of people who will accept that risk.

look at electronic slot machines. it's well known that those are rigged to pay out a lesser percentage over time (let's say 93% for example), yet people happily put their money in the machines.

outside of casinos, look at light bulbs and razor blades and their planned obsolescence for example. they are designed to fail in a short amount of time to keep you coming back. and people don't complain. it's just the nature of business.

stacking the deal in poker to give advantage to certain (or weaker) players is not necessarily "cheating", but can even out the experience for a broader range of people.

i KNOW this is going on in most sites. i can't prove it on full tilt (you can't prove it's NOT), but on other sites where i had multiple accounts, i would sit in at the same tables with another account when my "luck" was running out (i'd sit in the same tables with the same people), and suddenly my "luck" would change, and vice versa. the deal is tied to the account.

i think it's predetermined before the deal who will get the NUT hand, 2nd best, 3rd, etc..., and it's up to you to play the game. of course, you can say that in real life the same thing happens ("destiny", "fate") and that god controls it. but it's not random.

a computer is not a human, so there is no dealer to evaluate the hand after it is finished, so mathematically the software needs to calculate who wins the hand. which means in every deal, every player's hand has an assigned mathematical ranking so the outcome can be determined by a formula. in this case, predetermined, since all this takes a split second and the computer knows the rankings of the hands before any of the players ever see the cards and play.

the best hand (of whoever is left) at the showdown will be the winner. and this is so easy to manipulate. the software can select "JOE SCHMOE" who hasn't won in a while because he is a bad player, to receive the best dealt hand for an entire session. of course, he could still lose by playing poorly. but the funny thing is you can do this with a couple lines of code and there's no way to prove it.

and i don't care if you are phil ivey or doyle brunson or whoever. if you are marked to be dealt the 3rd or 4th best hand for an entire session of let's say 5 hours, or through 1000 hands, you are going to lose your money eventually.

you just can't consistently win in online poker when those type of odds are stacked against you.