Welcome to everyone who found the site. Whether you believe its random or you believe its not. Here is some evidence on the site. Based on e-mail from readers I have gotten I will attempt to make this a better all around poker site. Sure beats will still be discussed but maybe we can get some blog reader tourneys going or have blog readers invite others and share there own tourney wins and losses via blogs. Just send me an e-mail I will attempt to create a network of poker blogs.

Believers and.........Non-Believers

Saturday, July 30, 2011

Well I make that lost post and all of a sudden this happens many times

So I take it back. Doyles room is the same as everywhere else. I mean 4th place gets 50 bucks. I am sitting back and chilling and this happens. This CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT be random. On the bubble...BS.

Doyles Room Review

Doyles room is better than Full Tilt Poker or Pokerstars could ever wish to be. Thats my personal opinion. The one flaw of the site is that there arent that many people on at one time. The positives however are:

- The site actually seems to play the closest to real poker I have ever played online.

- Tourneys and cash games feel more real as well. Dont expect to get in a tournament where only 60 people are registered and have it be completed in one hour. Its not going to happen. You will be playing this tourney for 3-4 hours to win. Just like real poker. Compare this to Full Tilt where you could expect a tournament with 600 people to take maybe 3 hours.

- Beats. I am not going to say I havent had my share of bad beats on this site. I have. BUT and here is the big BUT, it happens far less often and with far less craziness than on other sites. If I push a set of 5's after the flop and someone else push's a flush draw I am going to lose that sometimes. Its expected. However, if like on FT I have AA and get called by someone who didnt even hit a pair on the flop. The game has not runner runnered me.......yet.

So what are the negatives to getting on this site. The "fake but not fake" players as I like to call them. There is an ever growing number of players whose names start with VE or BKR. In reading many posts on the internet and researching it appears that these players are all from South America and actually get paid to play online poker. They get staked and get paid a hourly wage (something like 20 cents an hour which is actually probably a decent salary). There winnings if any all then go back to the companies or people that have hired them to play on the sites. If you log on in the early morning or late at night you may literally sit at a 9 person table that looks like this:

and me

And it sucks because you dont know if these players truly are all sitting together and sharing hands and cards. Thankfully most of them are pretty bad and get all there money in the pot with the worst hand. So its quite easy to pull decent earning from these guys. Where it gets bad is in rebuy tourneys when they can just keep pushing all in hoping to get lucky and rebuy when they go out. If anyone knows anymore about these strange players let me know.

Since I have not been posting very often and Doyles rooms last hand part of the software is horrible to get screenshots to post on here. I will give a guy a shout who owns this blog:


He seems to post a lot and has pictures of hot asian chicks. So enjoy as it looks like he posts everyday.

Saturday, May 14, 2011

Doyles Room

My first day on Doyles Room. I must say I was pleasantly suprised. I really like the software. Its easy to use and intuitive. It really honestly and truly feels more like real poker. There is no crazy hands where three people are all in. The pace of the game is much slower and the cards feel real. Here is a highlight of my day in which I made a decent amount of money. This hand is great though:

Thats right I called it.....Full Tilt is Bankrupt

Dont expect to get your money back. I called this two weeks ago. Here are some links. The main question is what did they do with our money? A company should only be allowed to invest PROFITS. Not the players buy ins. This is absolutely ridiculous. I hope they go after the owners of the site as well. Howard Lederer behind bars. That would make me feel absolutely great!




So now that we have that out of the way. US Players will probably not be able to get their funding back. Howard Lederer is hiding in some hole somewhere outside of the United States. He should, he is an absolute thief. Full Tilt took our money as soon as we deposited it. Essentially, you were never going to get paid. So much for the poker sites make so much money they dont have to cheat theory.

If you won a large tournament you would have never received your money. If you did, they would have paid you with other peoples deposits. Forget them. Lock them up. What they did was illegal. Speaking of......

A quick article for you to review:

A major university recently completed a study of the on-line poker site FullTiltPoker.Net, the “free” side of Full Tilt Poker.


Over the course of the one-year study students entered into, but did not play in, over 10,000 9-person Sit & Go No Limit Hold’em 250 (play money) tournaments. Player stats were recorded, and later analyzed. Over 57,000 individual hands made up the study sample.

The study revealed that the dealing of cards at Full Tilt Poker is not random. The site has a tendency to deal a statistically abnormal amount of “big” hands, including straights, flushes, full houses, four of a kind, etc.

The odds of “hitting” a particular hand when seven cards are dealt from a 52-card deck are easily calculated. We won’t go into the gory mathematical details, but you are certainly invited to look them up for yourself if you don’t believe us.

For example, when seven cards are dealt from a 52-card deck, the odds of hitting a royal flush are approximately 500,000 to 1. That’s why you don’t see very many of them in the real world, let alone get one yourself. Yet, on Full Tilt we saw a royal flush in approximately 1 out of every 4,432 hands dealt, over 1,000 times as often as statistical probability would dictate. Several of our players were dealt more than one royal flush over the course of the study.

Oddly, a non-royal straight flush came up in 1 out of 7,203 hands during our study. With a random deal, the probability of hitting any kind of non-royal straight flush is approximately 83,000 to 1. That probability is multiplied by a factor of 10 at Full Tilt.

The most common winning hand in our tournaments at Full Tilt was 2 pairs. It came up on average 1 out of every 13 hands, about twice as often as statistical probability would dictate. With a random seven-card deal from a 52-card deck, a 2-pair hand should come up every 21 hands on average.

Likewise, all the other “big hands” occurred far more often on Full Tilt than one would expect from a truly random (and honest) deal. A straight came up in 1 out of every 54 hands dealt. Normal odds for a straight are 1 in every 283 seven-card hands. Likewise, a flush came up in 1 out of every 54 hands, the same as straights. In the real world, we would expect to see a flush in approximately 1 out of every 500 hands, or about half as often as a straight. On Full Tilt straights and flushes come up with almost equal frequency, yet another statistical anomaly.

Interestingly, the most common straights on Full Tilt are the ace high straight and the five high straight. They came up more than four times as often as any other kind of straight. This, in and of itself, represents another glaring statistical anomaly.

Hands with three-of-a-kind were observed in 1 out of every 27 hands, almost twice the 1 out of 47 hands one expects to see in the real world.

A full house came up on average 1 in every 71 hands dealt. This far exceeds the 1 in every 694 hands you will see in the real world.

Hands with four-of-a-kind occurred on Full Tilt in one 1 of every 281 hands, far more often then the 1 out of every 4,166 hands one expects from an random deal.

We can only conclude that Full Tilt does not deal cards randomly, but is programmed to produce big hands. Perhaps this makes for more “exciting” play, but it is less than honest.

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Full Tilt Poker is Bankrupt!!??

Do a search. Start reading. The US Government provided a go ahead more than 2 weeks ago for the poker sites to "refund" US players there money. Full Tilt continues to delay this process. In fact in there most recent release they are unable to do so because they simply dont have the money. What? This is not their money. This is our money, how can they not give it back to us. In business this is known as bankruptcy.

An even better question is what did Full Tilt do with our money? We are only asking for our investments back. This should be easy to accomplish since the money is ours and should not have been invested in anyway and also should not affect Full Tilt in anyway whatsoever. This is money they should not have access to. By now people are reading this and saying WTF? This is not true. Indeed it is. Search all over the internet. Pokerstars US players are in fact receiving their money or have already received their money.

Here is what FT provides:

This honestly just shows how terribly this website was run. So are you telling your United States players that their funds are lumped in with FT poker profits and also the funds of other players? That you dont have enough money in your accounts to pay out your US players even though IT IS THERE MONEY THAT IS IN THE ACCOUNTS.

This is bad. This is the end of FT poker. There is no way this website survives. Playing on this site at this point is just plain ludicrous. Even if poker becomes legalized I will not be redepositing any funds on FT because the site itself, the setup, and the disregard for players money is just plain disrespectful. Will I play internet poker again? Probably. Will it be on Full Tilt Poker? Hell no. They have lost all confidence with me. I mean how can it even come close to being explained that Pokerstars can give players money quickly, but FT does not have enough money to return the funds to US players?

If you are still doubting that FT is bankrupt. Please notice you cant even redeem FT points at the store. THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO SEND YOUR PRODUCT TO YOU. It really is amazing.

Monday, April 18, 2011

Thank God Full Tilt Is Shut Down

There is a post sure to grab attention. Simply put, I was angry at first, people messing with our freedom to do what we want. Then it hit me. This is a good thing provided it doesnt last forever. Two possible outcomes here. Full Tilt loses the battle, gets sued for enough money that they cant continue to operate and the owners of this unrandom website get put in jail for 5 - 25 years. Good. Screw them. We move back to love games, that used to happen every weekend and sometime weeknights, play with live people and learn to deal real cards again.

This really doesnt sound like a horrible thing if you ask me. I miss the live games. The face to face interaction. The ability to read someone else based on movements you can actually see.

The second possible outcome is after a few weeks they work out an agreement with the US government. The government will want to be able to regulate, tax, and audit the site. This is not a bad thing at all. They will have to prove to the government that the website is fair and random. Again this is not a bad thing. People know that something is not right now, which is why they have found this blog. If FT has to prove the random and fairness more than once a year and possible be subject to random audits, this is progress, and I think its exactly what is needed. They also need some form of customer service as it is non existent right now. You can e-mail them and maybe they will or maybe they wont reply.

Again, to be 100% honest, I see no negativity in this government shutdown. Either internet poker dies and we have to play home games again (which i wish would come back) or FT has to report to our federal government to continue to operate. One way or another a positive change will come.

Saturday, April 16, 2011

To Craig LaMonte

Since you have decided to post please explain what this comments means:

"Ok...you were AGAIN behind from the jump. MY GOD."

Are you saying that I should lose a hand because I was behind before a flop? If so, you are clearly showing that you dont understand poker. In fact, you are showing that you dont understand odds at all. Apparently you go all in preflop every hand I dont. If I go up against an opponent hold AK and I have A5 I am assuming that your comment means that I am behind from the start......the jump??

But I wouldnt push that all in. So if the flop comes out A53 I am clearly by far a favorite to win the hand now. A beat coming at this point is a bad beat. Maybe this is the jump you are talking about. On a side note, you sound like a retard using this statement....but back to the example. At this point I can only lose this hand by a 3 outer coming in which case a K hits the turn or river, OR the board runs a higher pair.

If an A hits I have a boat, if a 5 hits I have a boat, if a 3 hits I have a higher two pair and still win. So maybe I am missing your statement. The guy had 3 outs and a total of two chances to hit it or 6 chances total out of a full deck. You are trying to say that I should have lost??

Your a moron and I would love to play your home game, in fact I would take a side bet that I would finish higher than you any day of the week because you clearly dont even understand odds, much less the game of poker. "Jump" on that.

Tuesday, April 12, 2011

Holy Crap.......I can see this happening once maybe every 50 million hands

If this is random I will literally punch myself in the face.......

Sunday, April 3, 2011

Lets keep it going

Please note these are not all ins. These are all ins after the flop in which I should win these hands. It is nearly if not completely impossible to see these 3 outers or less continue many many times a day.

So I quit yesterday after that bad beat and then today first tourney second hand

Dream flop exactly what I want. All in. Called. He has more or less two aces tops he can hit and one person had already folded who called the raise. So I am figuring he has one out. I see the Queen on the turn and then........yup the amazing river pause.

Lets talk about that for a second shall we. Why if cards fall randomly does the river pause need to occur? There is no reason for this to happen. The cards should fall at the same speed as both the flop and the turn which is pretty much instant. Why is there a hesitation on the river? Obviously something is going on. The computer is "thinking" what card to show next. Why does it need to do this? It doesnt make much sense and just proves more and more that the game is not random at all. It is completely controlled by the FT servers. This person was given the win over me.

So to finish the hand. I knew either A) One of the two, probably only one aces was going to come off or B) one of the 2 queens was going to come off. This is the ONLY way I lose this hand. After the pause the Q comes. Lets not even talk about the odds of running QQ to win the hand and the board showing 3 queens. He has a maximum of 4 outs. This is a hand rarely seen. Yet I have posted hands that occured to me almost back to back from yesterday to today with only 2 hands in between playing time. Amazing? Nope, unrandom and fixed.

Friday, March 25, 2011

Apparently FT wants me to post enough to shut them down today

Please take these posts and send them to FT forums, message boards, and internet support. This is just getting ridiculous. I can prove all day that the site is rigged.

Here is a hand. Now please remember I just lost to AA on the post below with a magic river card. This time I have AA. I raise to 440 preflop, the player goes all in after the flop. No straight draw, no flush draw, and no chance except for runner runner to win the hand. Guess what...........here it is:

Full Tilt Poker Game #29336966118: $4 + $0.40 Rush On Demand (228163751), Table 44 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:33:54 ET - 2011/03/25

Seat 1: ruskiman (8,245)

Seat 2: Black Japs I (1,980)

Seat 3: fullham25 (7,215)

Seat 4: heizbub711 (1,880)

Seat 5: MouchaX (1,760)

Seat 6: arrpavore (2,000)

Seat 7: totalcontrol123 (2,315)

Seat 8: Crazydiggity (1,855)

Seat 9: DiddyKongone (10,677)

Black Japs I posts the small blind of 40

fullham25 posts the big blind of 80

The button is in seat #1

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Crazydiggity [Ah Ac]

heizbub711 has 8 seconds left to act

heizbub711 calls 80

MouchaX folds

arrpavore has 8 seconds left to act

arrpavore calls 80

totalcontrol123 folds

Crazydiggity raises to 440

DiddyKongone folds

ruskiman folds

Black Japs I folds

fullham25 folds

heizbub711 folds

arrpavore calls 360

*** FLOP *** [5h 5d 6c]

arrpavore checks

Crazydiggity bets 500

arrpavore has 15 seconds left to act

arrpavore raises to 1,560, and is all in

Crazydiggity calls 915, and is all in

arrpavore shows [9c Qc]

Crazydiggity shows [Ah Ac]

Uncalled bet of 145 returned to arrpavore

*** TURN *** [5h 5d 6c] [9h]

*** RIVER *** [5h 5d 6c 9h] [9s]

arrpavore shows a full house, Nines full of Fives

Crazydiggity shows two pair, Aces and Nines

arrpavore wins the pot (3,910) with a full house, Nines full of Fives

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 3,910
Rake 0

Board: [5h 5d 6c 9h 9s]

Seat 1: ruskiman (button) didn't bet (folded)

Seat 2: Black Japs I (small blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 3: fullham25 (big blind) folded before the Flop

Seat 4: heizbub711 folded before the Flop

Seat 5: MouchaX didn't bet (folded)

Seat 6: arrpavore showed [9c Qc] and won (3,910) with a full house, Nines full of Fives

Seat 7: totalcontrol123 didn't bet (folded)

Seat 8: Crazydiggity showed [Ah Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines

Seat 9: DiddyKongone didn't bet (folded)

If he cant see the cards then why would he call? He clearly is cheating or working for FT. Lets check his stats.

Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter

arrpavore 51 -$3 $6 -72% -$147 Super Tilt

Another player. Has lost tons of money on super tilt.

Coincidence? I think not, look at the site. I can prove this all day every day.

arrpavore         51-$3  $6  -72%-$147  Super Tilt 

arrpavore         51-$3  $6  -72%-$147  Super Tilt 

I mean how many times can I prove this site is fake

If you are one of the doubters out there. I have proven over and over again that FT is fake. The hand below is from the very beginning of a tourney. The guy has pocket aces. I didnt know this. But I call his minimal raise. I hit a set. I am dominant and should win this hand right now. Hey sorry buddy, you should have raised more to get me out of the hand. I bet and he goes all in on the flop. Of course I call him. I should have won this hand. But once again......for the 19 millionth time the small hesitation on the river comes and I know right away FT is going to make me lose. The ace of which there is a max on 2 shows up, he could also have hit a club as long as it didnt pair the board. Odds say I win, but once again FT "Thinks" about the river card and I bust out to a player who.....wait for it....stats below:

Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter

ROBINJJJ 3,429 -$1 $3 -50% -$5,038 Super Tilt

Thats right. THEY JUST PLAIN SUCK. They have lost more than 5K on an average game of 3 bucks. Do you even understand how many games you have to flat out lose at 3 bucks to be down FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS.
So the player fits the bill I have been preaching all along. FT must string them along and allow them to win hands they shouldnt. Why? Because this players is a cash cow for FT. He is funding FT. Lets say on average he has a tourney fee of 40 cents. This player alone using averages in terms of games played has paid more than 1600 dollars in tourney fees to FT. He has also lost 5K which is not taken into account on poker tracking websites. So in all he has lost more the 6600 bucks.
Ask yourself again..........why would FT cheat????

Sunday, March 20, 2011

For FTOPSchamp2B

There it is. If I had my chat privileges (maybe you dont know but way back in the beginning I posted that I randomly had my chat priveleges removed....because FT felt I was in collusion with another player...a player I didnt even know...but there is nothing you can do because they wont respond to e-mail asking about it and they dont have to, they are crooks plain and simple, they dont have any reason or incentive to respond to their "customers".), lost my thought...if I had my chat priveleges I would have responded back by saying i lost the first hand I played of the game which dropped me down to 800 chips by having QQ and flopping a set of Q and having someone go all in with a random K8, no pair, no flush draw, no straight draw, he ran a straight.

I would have also told you who would be the final three in the game. There were only three players at the the table that were non American. Guess what....thats who was your final three. They make the worst calls and the worst plays, but yet, they always seem to win.

And here is the hand that you saw me go out on. I raised preflop, and got a call. When the third K hit I had to feel confident that the person didnt call me with a K and certainly would not have called the raise with a 6....but I was wrong. The Donkey called me with a 63 off, because we all know this is the greatest hand in the world and everyone should play it. I could have told you I would lose, even before the first hand of the game, just by scrolling over peoples locations. It is amazing, either I have a super unique internet future seeing ability......or FT is total fucking bullshit and their computer randomness code is so faulty that I can read it...fuck it, its like I am in the matrix.

Sunday, March 13, 2011

Full Tilt Network Issues

So this has happened thrice today. The webpage states that all systems are operational and working, however as you can clearly see by the message at the bottom of the page Full Tilt has paused the tournaments. So what I am suppossed to sit here for an hour or maybe more and wait for the tournament to start again? This is BS. We have things to do FT. I have already lost my buy in twice due to these issues today. I am documenting it here so that when I send FT an e-mail asking for my money back, I would love to see what they say. I mean the money went somewhere right??

That also gets me thinking. What kind of legitimate business does not have customer service? Thats ridiculous. We are paying customers and we cant pick up a phone and call a customer service rep. This is very odd and we are all quite stupid for playing on this website. If they take all your money.......who do you complain too LOL.

Tuesday, March 8, 2011

For the last post

Just to prove what everyone has been saying is ALWAYS truthful:

Username Games Played Av. Profit Av. Stake Av. ROI Total Profit Form Ability /100 Network Filter

toochewed 258 $0 $2 9% -$35 - 58 FullTilt SNG Only x

Thats the guy that hit his three outer. Thats right he has lost $35 bucks on the site at an average stake of 2 dollars.
Fits the bill.....newer player....lost money.
Why would that matter? Because if he loses here for making a bad call in which he should have known he was beat with his ONE PAIR when I reraised him, then he may stop depositing on FT. And thus FT doesnt make money. Now he takes my money and either keeps playing and FT takes rake or he plays a tourney and FT collects fees. He will think he made a good play and once he loses all his money he will deposit again thinking he is a good player. Thus one dollar is rolled over and over and over again by allowing the bad players to win.
Welcome to criminal money laundering at its best courtesy of FT.

This might have to be my last hoorah

I just cant take this site anymore. I have been sitting patient (I folded aces and kings after seeing a couple stupid flops knowing I would lose) and waiting for a hand. I wait and wait and wait. ....just to travel back a little bit....last night I play .25 / .50 and get AJ in which I have one caller. The flop is AJJ. Of course I am betting and the other player goes all in. Of course he has AA. Whatever I guess you could say it happens.

Back to tonight I have AJ and hit two pair against one caller. The flop is all suited and worries me. But I know I have the best hand and I bet. I get reraised. So I raise again and he goes all in. I of course call. Well F**K me silly. A Queen on the river.

Two nights in a row with AJ and I lose all my buy in. Thanks for not being random at all full tilt. This has happened for almost a year now. Thats a three outer tops on the river. For all the doubters I have to ask. For the site to be random wouldnt this have to happen for me as well? Also wouldnt the best hand win a greater percentage time since more hand = more beats.

If anyone is even thinking about playing on Full Tilt. Please dont. Invest your money. This site only exist to take it from you.

Saturday, March 5, 2011

More Hands = More Bad Beats

The name of this post is the battle hymn of those that claim online sites are not rigged. But I have a bone to pick with you. Because if this saying were true:

More hands = More bad beats

Then this must also be true:

More hands = More good hands win

So in time everything would equal out and we would not be posting about our results and how we got beat. I have literally been on a ONE YEAR losing streak. I am almost positive that FT has rigged their software againts me specifically, probably because of this site that you are reading now. But I am working on some testing with other "names" and getting very interesting results.

So again for those people that feel compelled to post that:

More hands = more beats

Please also remember that if this is true then:

More hands must also equal more wins from better hands

And this is simply not the case.

Saturday, February 19, 2011

The infamous "Software Update"

I havent posted in a while, but have been playing and collecting hands. One thing I started noticing a long time ago is that everytime I would see that I needed a Full Tilt Poker "Software Update" that I would have extremely wild swings in either winnings or losses. I mean I would hit sets, flushes, and straights at the drop of a hat without even sweating about it. I could go on runs for a good amount of money and then all of a sudden a few days later I would get hit with the Software Update again and be unable to hit even a pair consistently and lose most of if not all of the winnings since the last Software Update.

So with a few months of looking at this I have questions that have yet to be answered:

Why does everyone not have to update their software?

Thats right. This seems to be a selective update as I had a few people following along. We did not all have to update at the same time. In fact, it seemed to be very random as to when the update occured. If this really is a simple software update that would add in additional features or improve security I would think that everyone would have to update at the same time. This is NOT the case and in fact the updates between different players were up to 2 weeks apart. Why?

Secondly, why does the software update seem to generate an instant swing in the other direction in which your cards are currently falling?

I have collected enough hands to show that the software updated seems to change the outcome of the cards to the opposite of your current "streak". I have literally gone from hitting one outers to losing after flopping the nuts from what seems to be a software update.

Third. Why is there no history of software upgrades on FT's website? Most other sites allow you to see the current version number as well as past upgrade numbers.

FT for some reason does not show a current version number. You simply install it and it "updates" seemingly at random.

What does this mean? Does Full Tilt control the game more than we think? Can they remotely and with an update control your cards and the "random" way they are dealt as a way to control your winnings and losings? It is seeming more and more probable.

I mean who would have thought that the "update" did not happen to everyone...

Sunday, January 23, 2011

Richard Thinks It would be Bad Business

"You guys are joking right? Hundreds of thousands of people play on this site - they've literally had single played hands between players worth 1 million dollars. Do you really think they give two donkey's uncles about you and your couple hundred, or even thousands of dollars? You guys need a dose in reality and the business world.
Also - online poker has revolutionized the spped at which poker is played - when you are playing thousands of hands in a short time, expect crazy and varried results. You probably dont remember all the times where you won 10 hands in a row is my guess."

You are a moron if you dont realize that you just brought up the reason that FT is rigged. BUSINESS. You do realize that the goal of a business is to make money right? Not only that but the goal is to maximize and increase profits in a business. How do you do that when you run a poker website?? Simply put at some point new people are going to stop registering for the site, therefore you reach the maximum number of players and at this point your profits would become stagnant if everything stayed the same. In other words if good players won as odds say they should and bad players lost then you would reach a maximum expected profit quite quickly. So what has to be done to continue to profit is alterations of the code. Now what I do is allow bad players to win once in a while with miracle runner runners and one out river cards and they CONTINUE TO PLAY. The good players who should have won that hand write it off to a bad beat and deposit more money and continue to play. Simply by adding this feature in FT can squeeze more profit from the site. Not to mention.....throw is some players employed by FT who play on the site and keep their profits and you have a HUGE reason for FT to rig the games as they keep the proft. And yes, FT does employ players to fill their electronie seats. They have admitted this. Casinos do the same thing. FT pays them to play. They keep their pay, FT keeps the profits. You dont think there is an advantage to a company in having their employees win big money? Ask yourself this. In all the games you have played and all the people you know that have played on the site, how many people do you know, personally, that have come away with multi thousand dollar wins? I know of not one.